If the St. Louis task force can finalize the stadium funding in advance of the NFL's time frame for making a decision on relocation, Kroenke may not get his way. And as far as I’m concerned, once NFL owners rejected public money from St. Louis and Missouri, they told EVERY city “we don’t need public money. They were not being truthful with us. And I told him that.”, When asked if he had spoken to Goodell since that statement when he joined us in The Fast Lane last week, Nixon said “we’ve not had any substantive follow-ups from that. It’s highly unlikely that Khan would move his team here, or that anyone will spend at least $2.5 billion to set up shop in STL. In St. Louis, it's looking like we won't have a nifty new football stadium on … Log In Sign Up. I think that’s just not true. Owner Shad Khan has invested about $100 million of his own money in stadium improvements in Jacksonville, and was critical of St. Louis after the vote to move the Rams. Amid all the dismissive talk about San Diego’s dwindling chances of getting another NFL team, about the end of the league’s relocation era … Yes, it is possible for St. Louis to get another NFL at some point in the future, but only if the city is willing to build a new stadium. We aren’t getting another team, but with what the NFL is and what we have, St. Louis is, and is going to be, just fine. The Jaguars’ lease that runs through 2030, as an example, requires about $100 million to get out of. Those leagues have younger demographics that perhaps better mirrors St. Louis’ status as one of America’s top business startup cities. ST. 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We can build on our own.” Indeed, the Rams are funding their stadium in Inglewood, and the Falcons, Giants and Jets, Patriots and Lions all have absorbed at least 75% of stadium costs. The NFL Goes Back To The Well In terms of whether St. Louis will get another NFL team, an interesting fact is that, like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "The … Portland. As we saw in San Diego, public votes for stadiums are tricky. Right now, it appears likely that the Rams will move back to L.A. to play in a brand spanking new stadium built by their owner. Example: my story on CUC International pointed out how the company's aggressive accounting was masking a cash-flow problem. The 32 owners get a cut of all national league revenues, and they’re getting pretty much everything they can out of America. We can come up with dozens of examples of NFL dishonesty. I know they’ve already lost two NFL teams but that makes … In addition to the Rams, there are myriad examples of the league’s dishonesty. That’s just not available in St. Louis. We will never get another NFL team,and that’s really a shame. St. Louis fans are without an NFL team again. Three of my longstanding publishing creations: the valuations of sports teams, ranking actors and movie studios on bang for the buck (ROI) and the Forbes Fab 40 (the most valuable sports brands). 754 likes. The last city that lost an NFL team and never got one another one was Portsmouth, Ohio, in 1934. In terms of whether St. Louis will get another NFL team, an interesting fact is that, like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "The Terminator," the league generally states it will be back. Who are the people of St. Louis rooting for in the Super Bowl? A team that hasn't had a winning season since 2003 yet still gained the support of Rams' fans. Former Rams WR Torry Holt could get NFL ‘Hall Call’ this weekend News. You can say St. Louis is such a baseball town that they can’t support an NFL team with both the Cardinals and Rams having fled the city. Log In Sign Up. Here's a history lesson coupled with some analysis, recently put forth by Eric Click, Ph.D., on why St. Louis lost the Rams (again) and may not (my take away) get another NFL team for a long, long time. You don't complain that there's no NFL team; you hit the bike paths. They don’t want to split it 34 ways. St. Louis might have soured on the NFL since Rams owner Stan Kroenke, with the help of the league, relocated his team to Los Angeles after 21 seasons here. Though the NFL publicly dismissed the suit, it has become a worrisome headache for the league and its owners as St. Louis lawyers have kept it … Their handling of the concussion issues of their own players has been abominable. The 29-page document obtained Tuesday by The Times lays out the team’s rationale for why it should be able to leave St. Louis and how it believes such a move would ultimately strengthen the NFL. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images), Impact 50: Investors Seeking Profit — And Pushing For Change, Super Bowl 2021: With Tom Brady Taking On Patrick Mahomes, NFL Ends Season On Highest Possible Note, Back To The Future? Dave Peacock and the region’s private leadership are invested in bringing MLS to St. Louis and upgrading Scottrade Center. Close. St. Louis. With the one-year anniversary of the league ripping the Rams franchise from the region despite a viable stadium plan coming next week, the question of the NFL’s future here has been asked of me many times. Or the one that ended their hopes of a dynasty in the early 2000's? By Jacob Kirn and Brian Feldt – St. Louis Business Journal . You may opt-out by, Traffic cop at the intersection of money and sports, Seattle Seahawks at CenturyLink Field on December 15, 2016 in Seattle, Washington. It’s not about fans or cities, it’s about money. St. Louis not interested in another NFL team, Slay says. Archived. Relocation plans are important when it comes to the NFL. The only logical move for the NFL is to move to 36 teams for the symmetry of having six divisions of six teams each. For new stadiums in Santa Clara, Minneapolis, Atlanta and Las Vegas, the public wasn’t given a voice on funding. Do you have any idea … That wouldn't necessarily be the case in the Los Angeles, though. A stadium is going to cost at least $1 billion, and a team is going to cost $1.5 billion. Doug Gottlieb discusses the likelihood of St. Louis getting an NFL team again. St,. These days I like to take lots and lots of numbers and turn them into proprietary concepts and multi-platform content. Here's a history lesson coupled with some analysis, recently put forth by Eric Click, Ph.D., on why St. Louis lost the Rams (again) and may not (my take away) get another NFL team … There are many reasons. Posted by 5 years ago. I know they’ve already lost two NFL teams but that makes the fan base all the more hungry and deserving. Obviously, the league consistently told Nixon and his task force to keep doing what they were doing in planning a stadium, even though it was a fate accompli that the Rams would leave. The laws here call for public votes on any tax supported sports facilities. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts . St. Louis fans are without an NFL team again. With both the Cardinals and Rams franchises, the city and surrounding areas have shown the same passion and enthusiasm equal to city's other professional sports teams even through some of the more lackluster seasons. I started out in the statistics department of Forbes in the mid-'80s then transitioned to. That’s why the pro sports business model works so well. Click's Upshot: "Opposed to the locally established St. Louis Cardinals (MLB) and St. Louis Blues (NHL), St. Louis has twice tried and twice failed to rent-to-own an NFL team. Brooks jettisoned Knox's run-oriented scheme in favor of a powerful air attack. After the outpouring of support … In St. Louis, and pretty much every NFL city, if the team is good, then people are going to go to the games and support them. St. Louis mayor says city won’t pursue another NFL team. These guys are happy with the club they have. Posted: Feb 3, 2021 / 03:52 PM CST / Updated: Feb 3, 2021 / 03:52 PM CST. But the city went after another NFL team with zeal. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images). No matter what outsiders say about their lack of support, the Rams were a … Yet when given the opportunity to relocate two franchises…by keeping the Chargers and Raiders in California…they are going to abandon three markets, with the Rams leaving St. Louis and, presumably the Chargers bolting San Diego and moving to Los Angeles, and the Raiders departing Oakland for Las Vegas. It … So if any teams beyond the Chargers and Raiders DO move, that relocation is going to be to a spot like London, where the league can generate more revenue. Though the NFL publicly dismissed the suit, it has become a worrisome headache for the league and its owners as St. Louis lawyers have kept it from going to arbitration, according to the report. The city of St. Louis’ continues lawsuit against the National Football League over its relocation of the Rams franchise to Los Angeles has requested depositions from over 40 NFL officials, according to Ben Frederickson of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. SEATTLE, WA - DECEMBER 15: Quarterback Jared Goff #16 of the Los Angeles Rams is brought down by the... [+] Seattle Seahawks at CenturyLink Field on December 15, 2016 in Seattle, Washington. It’s hard to imagine the state government, or any politician, will want anything to do with an NFL stadium in the future. In a move that potentially frees up the Rams to … However, St. Louis persuaded them to stay with the promise of a stadium—what would become Busch Memorial Stadium (a new expansion team, the Falcons of the NFL, was eventually created for Atlanta and began play in 1966, and a different St. Louis team would move to Atlanta—the NBA Hawks in 1968). They also say three strikes and you’re out. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts . Portland has a rabid fanbase that supports both the Blazers and Timbers well, so they’ve earned their shot at the NFL. They say the third time’s the charm. The Cardinals got off to a good start, and tied the Cleveland Browns … I doubt they will get another one. They aren’t going to expand to London, or Mexico City or Toronto. The arguments against L.A. getting another shot at the NFL (which are immaterial since it’s going to happen) apply to St. Louis as well, plus StL has less economic playroom to support a team. Louis is a two time NFL loser - Cardinals and Rams. And you know Phil Knight is ready to move to the big leagues anyway. Jan 13, 2016 Updated Jan 13, … That’s not accurate.” Borland told CSN. It’s not a good syndicate to do business with. Any logical rationale used to dismiss those questions changed the minute the NFL endorsed Kroenke's plan to bolt St. Louis for Inglewood, Calif., where he will build a $1.86 billion stadium. But you barely mentioned St. Louis, which already has a stadium to get started. City and county officials claim in a lawsuit that the Rams and the league negotiated in bad faith before leaving. There’s no appetite that I have to take another run at an NFL team.” If you were a politician and saw how Slay got burned, would you engage them? And honestly the way the players are treating America (Land of the Free) because of their money and spiritual blindness, I hope they don’t get one. That means the league would need to add four teams. In addition to Slay, Governor Jay Nixon was ready to unilaterally provide state funding for an NFL stadium. I even wrote an Earnings Quality newsletter for Forbes for a brief period (I think it peaked at about 150 subscribers). Posted by. San Diego may possibly but I would like to hear from someone in San Diego and how they feel. No matter what outsiders say about their lack of support, the Rams were a major part of the culture in the city. The actions of the league speak louder than their words. Short of one of those fairy tales, if the Raiders leave the best chance Oakland has of getting another NFL team just might be … waiting a few years for things to go wrong in … Press J to jump to the feed. And the answer I always give is, no chance. St. Louis has lost two NFL teams. In terms of whether St. Louis will get another NFL team, an interesting fact is that, like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "The Terminator," the league generally states it will be back. 2. If ANY public funds are going to be spent on sports facilities, it makes sense for the region to preserve what we have, as we tried to do with the Rams. St. Louis requests depositions with 42 NFL figures, including Goodell, Kroenke, Demoff Posted by Curtis Crabtree on August 12, 2020, 2:05 AM EDT Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports They’d scoff at that. That’s before any relocation fees and litigation. ST. LOUIS (KMOV.com) – Wednesday, the XFL announced St. Louis will officially be getting another professional sports team. Indeed, commissioner Roger Goodell has consistently claimed that the league would prefer to keep teams in their home markets. In a similar situation as what led the Bidwell's to move the Cardinals to Arizona after the 1987 season, Rams owner Stan Kronke could not come to terms with the city on a $780 million dollar renovation and had no interest in a proposed new billion … St. Louis will never get another NFL team. In 1987, St. Louis’ NFL team, the Cardinals, skipped town abruptly. User account menu. In public-private partnerships, the devil is in the details. This page is dedicated to getting the NFL to realize that St.Louis deserves better and should receive an expansion team … The team played its first several games in St. Louis at Busch Stadium (the home of the NFL's St. Louis Cardinals from 1966 until 1987) as work finished on their new home, the Trans World Dome. … The end of the 2015 NFL season also marked the end of another franchise in St.Louis with the Rams opting to return to Los Angeles. Besides being an Assistant Managing Editor at Forbes I also have a gig as co-host and Managing Editor of the four-time New York Emmy award winning Forbes SportsMoney on the YES Network and Fox Sports 1 with my buddies at YES, co-host Bob Lorenz and producer David Alfreds, both of whom have taught me a tremendous amount. “I mean, it was dishonest. That means upgrading Scottrade Center so that the Blues, a franchise truly committed to St. Louis, can continue to thrive, and so that the NCAA will continue to deliver big events that the St. Louis Sports Commission gets. Public officials, both elected and nonelected, should be transparent and accountable, which helps prevent public servants form putting their private interests ahead of the public good. The only logical move for the NFL is to move to 36 teams for the symmetry of having six divisions of six teams each. I mean, literally we put a great deal on the table, and it’s clear as you look back on it that they were really bent on leaving, and were not really exceptionally concerned about the fans and the people of this market which I think are great. CUC's stock subsequently crashed and the CEO was convicted of fraud. And the answer I always give is, no chance. In an interview with CSN Bay Area, former 49ers linebacker Chris Borland, who retired after one year in the league, responded to an interview of Goodell with Charlie Rose, where Goodell said the NFL has never been more exciting and competitive, and has never been safer. Press J to jump to the feed. St. Louis NFL expansion franchise project. Nixon’s successor, Governor Elect Eric Greitens, has gone on record as saying he’s against an MLS stadium in St. Louis if any public funds are required. Through the Rams debacle, in an attempt to continue to be a major league city in perception, St. Louis looks like a minor league city in reality. ", My mentors were James Walker Michaels, Geoffrey N. Smith and William Baldwin. What they did to us was disgusting,and it soured St Louisans on football and sports in … The last time St. Louis lost an NFL franchise, it took eight years to get another one back. 35. 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